Note that it was parked in head first. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. Wife left him. It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. That poor town has been though enough. Have you been in contact with her at all? I'm being very careful in applying that theory to what is available, but it has made sense of the two sketches being so different. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. It just opens himself up for litigation that proves he did it. If you cant handle such material, dont read! Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. I saw the local Delphi News footage from the week of the murders where they interview Ron Logan while they are actually searching his property. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. But answer me this. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. Sorry for this poorly worded question. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and cant keep her stories straight. @ Skip, He does not work there at the moment. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. Im not sure about that, but its an interesting idea! He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). He uses all kinds of weird aliases. The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Its more secure. You made a mistake my friend. Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. Isnt that logical. Its all about the zero-sum game. Would you be able to send me any sort of timeline map to help me with my own investigation? So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. And he never meets anyone for any reason. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. We do indeed have documents from the case. I will. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. Delphi murders cops slammed for keeping people 'in the dark' STAR LIVES ON Ray Liotta's daughter gives heartbreaking tribute to late dad at Walk of Fame Police still ask anyone with information about the case to submit a tip at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. I am 100% behind you. I dont get internet drama but everyone seems to have stronger reactions both for and against when dp gets brought up than anyone else. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. The 10-mile Delphi Historic Trails system is comprised of eight miles of urban "street" trails. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). Hes been on my radar for a long time now. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. Give it a rest, dammit! Jersey dude felt so slighted that the Reddit world didn't stop what they were doing to acknowledge Skip's strange trip that he felt he needed to make a post himself to berate those who didn't offer to pay for Skip's gas. At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Thats because they havent been told shit. Well, hes the right age anyway. Why dont you do a show on our theories. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Please. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Double jeopardy? !https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KristinTPlease consider joining this channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxxGSubscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxxGSources:The Transcript of KAK interrogation with PoliceReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/Disclaimer: All Behind The Crime Door content is for adults only and may contain themes that some individuals find triggering, offensive or disturbing.The intent is not to disrespect viewers or any individuals herein. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. There are neighbors separated by acreage. However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. Skip- in one of the episodes you dropped DP brothers name Q A quick search shows that he was arrested and faces charges of child moderation charges (at least someone named QP from Delphi). I personally find it odd for a tryst. The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory. Is he into numerology? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? If it was deleted it's probably because he is the one on the actual physical witch hunt in actual real life. Instead of attacking the guy, why not support him! The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killers clothes in blood. Is he somebody big in law enforcement? We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! Kline was supposed to be in court Thursday, but a judge canceled the appearance. He would just tell me how beautiful I am, that I should come stay the night at his house, let him take me out of state, said the woman on the podcast. No, LK is the real deal. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. Among other things, Carroll . I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. Do you have any other thoughts on the alibi that "I was with my mistress?" What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. Not the people who called him distasteful. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. They then head back to find her friend and walk the trails together then later leaving while the search is going on. Hi folks. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Can you explain to me how LE would know that BG filmed his crime if he didnt send that crime footage to the girls phones? At least some people like me. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. They think he did it, but as far as real, good, hard evidence that will stand up in court, theres not a lot there. I believe there a at least a few who suspect this individual. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. He had those white see through covers that cover the bottom of the home to the ground, theyre placed to separate the spacing in between the home and the ground. They call the guy DP and he is a person who was at the bridge/trails at the time and has been considered an eye witness. Thanks, Mike! We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. . Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. Theres just journalists. Thank u. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. If anyone has arguments for or against dp please direct message me info! Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. . I know some people are upset for this style of episodes and so be it. It's really not that hard. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. I thought there was more to this blog. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. We believe she never showed up, he never called the wife, he never lost his keys in the first place, and there was no spare set. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. Thanks again and have a great day. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. 3) This man is a *heavy* smoker and a functioning alcoholic. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! You want me to put it up? Then there is always the question of his occupation. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. Did he eat? When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. Make So the guys had a "Skip Jansen" on the pod to discuss a new suspect who is considered a suspect by LE but not named to the public. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. You write an article saying some guys not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! I can just picture skip Jensen strutting in to delphi , I hope he films it too. Reminiscent of a small hatchet, not a typical knife. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. If I can figure out how to post them here.. Thats why he has those Packers boots on. And I appear quite harmless, too. We doubt if she did contact his wife. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. What is this guy, another Zodiac? $20/lifetime membership. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? ( WXIN) A 2017 search warrant in connection with the Delphi, Indiana killings of Abby Williams and Libby German has been shared with the public. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. Im not stupid. We . Would love to join the private group. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. This proves more of Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girls phones after the crime. That's a very interesting theory. Thank you!TIP HOTLINE: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or (765) 822-353Close SourcesFBI RESOURCESVideos, timeline, maps, interviews etc.https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/new-#delphi #AbbyandLibby #TheDelphimurders #bridgeguy #Truecrime #murder #missing #Indiana #unsolved #justiceforabbyandlibbyFair Use: LET ME BE VERY CLEAR This content on my channel may contain copyrighted content not authorized for use by the owner. @ Skip, I agree I hope CN and this new guy do sue you. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. . He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. Fascinating episodes - Ive listened twice and got back through the old Delphi episodes too! I also looked into his brother as a possibility. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. Personally I wouldn't have let this episode leave the recording booth. The February 2017 killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi has drawn international attention. That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. Im leaving it at that. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. TCG with Skip Jansen made a compelling argument as to why & how this person could be responsible. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. The conviction is expunged. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? It's quite active. There are signatures on the document. Train tracks and you guessed it, more fields, parallel to the gas station. The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. 43 seconds of audio. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. 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