I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. 5 Million Mini Biography. Jones was last found registered under his obviously fictional name in a cheap motel in the company of a dubious woman. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. I bought the Gen4, have it in the living room in the center of the 1250 sq feet, and I have not turned on my heater. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. Coincidentally, Burkett is the father of St. Aquinas' star quarterback Bobby (Logan Huffman) and his struggle to assert his copyright against his conniving space heater magnate boss (Richard . I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. When you move to another room, the EdenPure goes with you. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Realize that Villa talks about all of the heat loss from the furnace ductwork, then tells you to turn the rest of your house down to 65deg (using this same furnace he rails about)and the EP will keep you toasty, ROFL. They are perfect for sleeping. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. Only if you needed this type Of heater. How? the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. This actually makes their heater less efficient. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! You still need them. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems claims of a US-1000 or Gen4 having 20,000 hour bulb life contains as much truth as a politicians typical campaign speech. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. It was almost exactly a year ago when I first saw the EdenPure heater advertised and I warned readers to take caution when believing some of the claims. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. Another way to do this is to just turn down your thermostat. I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. You'll love it. Buyer beware ! I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. ****. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. The criticism must have impelled these heater hucksters of Suarez Corporation Industries (which peddles both the "Amish"Heat Surge heaters and the Eden Pure heater) to back off the fable about Jones and his "cured copper." Click a location below to find Bill more easily. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! I don't believe people can stay comfortable in their homes with just a space heater, so I don't believe they'll reduce your heating bills in half. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. The film, directed and produced by Canton, Ohio native Doug Dearth and starring Logan Huffman, is the classic David-and-Goliath story centered around a small-town football team. Lowering the thermostat(s) by 3F would likely result in minimal discomfort for you and your family, but are you willing to keep your home at 50F? I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. For example, an oil based electric heaterit is convection only. In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. ft. Unplugged edenpure. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. less per month power bill. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. It will cost more. the unfortunate part is, that double-wide homes MANY TIMES (not always) have poor ductwork systems (leaky or poor quality ductwork) or inexpensive heat pump systems. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. Felt bad for the guy. A UNIT is $1000. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. If you have 5000 BTU, you can comfortably heat a space around 100-200 sq.ft with outside temperature of 20-30 F and typical insulation. Why pay 400.00 for a space heater,when you can go to Home Depot and buy a elecric heater for 30.00-60.00 that will heat the room better than the "bulbs in a box" heater will.Edenpure is just ripping people off! Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? etc,. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. That's right. Since electric space heaters convert almost all the electricity into heat, they are all equally efficient. Question: What is the best portable heater? Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. You cannot beat basic rule of physics saying that energy does not come from nowhere, and does not disappear to nowhere. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. They don't claim it will save you money. Unfortunately, most don't pay enough attention or don't care about the consumer. Set in rural Ohio, the birthplace of football, a small-town high school football team rises to play their cross-town rival, a perennial powerhouse, while standing up for an entire community. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. 107 people named Bill Burkett found in Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, Jacksonville and 17 other cities. Out of stock at this time though. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. You are dead wrong pilgrim. ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. We bought edenpure in September. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. etc. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. If it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, it is only delivering 8,000 btus. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. This has been disputed. It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. New Human Resources jobs added daily. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). This is the second blog I have complained on. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. That splendid metal, so the story goes, has been incorporated into the design of Eden Pure heaters. I'll definitely buy another. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. Nothing is 100% efficient. I criticize the device for a few reasons: But Consumer Reports latest review on EdenPure says it best: Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. Would i buy this. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The Edenpure is better than most electric heaters because Of how it creates its heat. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. HOWEVERand this is where I have to now state after research of many heaters, this Gen4 costs .25 an hour to heat. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. Endenpure I dont know till I get it. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? I am ashamed that, as a scientist I didn't think through the physics of Edenpure's claims. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! It's clear that you have not only taken the bait, but swallowed the hook. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. I have 1250 sq ft upstairs and 1250 downstairs. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. We have really high ceilings. Even a child knows that hot air rises. I guess not. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. A big amen to all you have posted. I guess two guys with a beard is supposed to lend your overpriced heater more credibility. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. This heater will warm almost my entire upstairs, 1250 sq ft. Today, I had my central heat heat on 64 to try to save $$$ on my electricity. Best of luck. I needed the one with electric thermostat but I did not get that. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. austria regionalliga west tyrol. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. They were not meant to be used in that manner. The cost was going to be $10,000. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. Thanks. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. Once these last bulbs burn out, I will no longer use this over priced heater. The E.P. [1] If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. Well it depends on what version you get. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. EdenPURE Classic CopperPLUS Heater $272.00 $399.00 Best Sellers EdenPURE 3000 Whole House Air Purifier by AirFree $299.00 $374.00 EdenPURE GEN50 Infrared Heater $297.00 $399.00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247.00 $447.00 EdenPURE Bio SpeedCLEAN Cordless Vac - Model XL200 $249.00 $299.00 EdenPURE GEN21 EdenPURE All Season Heater $279.00 $447.00 He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". What else can I do? . There are none so blind as those who will not see. Want a great laugh? Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. FACT: Nonsense. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! USA Distributor of MCM Equipment bill burkett heater net worth. Hatco GRAH-48-208-T-QS Glo-Ray 48" Infrared Strip Heater | 1100 Watts (Closeout) Free Shipping Quick Ship $265.10 / Each $226.05 / Each Add to Cart Nemco 6150-60 60" Infrared Bar Heater | 1400 Watts Quick Ship $184.00 / Each Add to Cart Hatco GRAH-48-120-T-QS Glo-Ray 48" Infrared Strip Heater | 1100 Watts Free Shipping Quick Ship $265.10 / Each No more, no less. And it is VERY safe. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. Look at your furnace's btu rating. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Process for forming coal compact without a binder Patent number: 5658357 Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! to produce those BTUs. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. I will not call this a scam. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Services may be provided by Western Union Financial Services, Inc. NMLS# 906983 and/or Western Union International Services, LLC NMLS# 906985, which are licensed as Money Transmitters by the New York State Department of Financial Services. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. 5.7 1 h 32 min 2015 X-Ray PG. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. Heat is the movement of air molecules. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room.
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