For what its worth longest shot was 823 yards with my Leupold vx2 3-9 but that was eight years ago I shoot only 7mm rem mag in 3 different set ups and for me, there arent nearly enough pros to just switch the tack on the near impossible feat of obtaining brass. Graph below shows the energy remaining at 500 yards for the same load: At 500 yards the remaining energy is 1710 Ft-Lbs. Its a direct thread. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Again, BC and velocity is important. You mentioned that length. Matt. A bullet with a BC of 0.400 will drift over 40 inches at 700 yards in a 10 mile per hour crosswind. I expected it to go a little faster in the CX due to the lighter weight, but copper bullets can also increase pressures, so it seems that Hornady wasnt able to get any increased speed out of it. Was pleasantly surprised by your reference to preferred barrels and to find out that you are also a local Utah sportsman as I grew up only 70 miles away from St. George and still live and hunt this area with my family. Most people will like 22, but I like em short! Great info on load data. Obviously Hornady makes dies for the 7 PRC, but I personally am not a fan of their dies. I do think it was shame not to have made the neck 1-2mm longer for reloading. This streamlined, long 0.284 bullet cuts through the atmosphere with minimal drag effect, thus retaining velocity and energy far downrange (as you can see from the graph). The first number is the value of this cartridge, and the last number is the value of the most powerful round in our bullet database. Mag. There is still quite a bit more case capacity left with Magpro (my guess would be you could go to 77 grains before it compresses), so that could be an option for max velocity, but youd be going through quite a bit more powder to get there. Check out bestofthewest.com or longrangepursuit.com. I was hoping to optimize the cartridge . It really looks like this might be the do all cartridge Ive been waiting for. Shooting Conditions in the Mountains can be hard to determine. You have stated several times you would not use 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC for large game like elk. Its certainly true that bullet/load selection will make a big difference. Seldom is the practical max the same as the true max distance. Its all highly situational, but it matters. I currently shoot a 300 Win Mag. Nice informative article. If you throw a big rock, it puts a big hole in the ground, but doesn't go so far. If your max is 400-yards and the deer is moving, perhaps stick to 200-yards. How does the 7mm Rem Mag achieve such ballistics? I really enjoy every bit from Income School! The first is simple to measure and compensate for. In our next article we will look at how to calculate and compensate for long range shooting, and the equipment and programs that will do it. The bullets BC (ballistic coefficient) is very high at 0.536. For this load, I chose the 195 Berger EOL and loaded it to max COAL of 3.34. There would be 226 inches drop at 1000 ft elevation compared to 207 inches at 8000 ft; and 52 inches deflection versus 40. Cool round. This is more than adequate for taking down large game the size of elk at this distance, provided you use the right bullet to penetrate to reach the vitals and place the shot accurately. The parent case is the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum and fits a .284 inch bullet on a .317 inch neck with a beltless, rebated, bottleneck with a large rifle magnum primer case . Hornady has made the perfect 7mm case. PBB will just thread the end in a typical 5/824 pattern and then youll use a direct thread suppressor like a Dead Air Nomad. NEED ADVICE!!! 1998 - Present. Do not rely on my anecdotal testing for your rifle. As we examine the drop and deflection of a bullet it becomes apparent that BC and velocity are very important parameters for shooting at long range. If you own a 7mm Rem Mag, its easy to produce 7mm Rem Mag Ballistics reports using Shoot! For this experiment, well look at three common ways to determine effectiveness. I reload and would be VERY interested in learning more about being able to use less powder to achieve higher velocities with the the same bullet in 7 PRC vs 7 rem mag. Given Hornadys target load of 180gr at 2,950fps, this is likely a max load. Thats one flat shooting load considering we sighted-in the bullet to impact only 2.37 inches high at 100 yards. Why is it a foregone conclusion that Shooters will gravitate toward heavy-for-caliber high-BC bullets in the 7mm PRC? The 7mm PRC was approved by SAAMI on June 7, 2022 and the public introduction was released on June 16, 2022. The 2 trajectory charts below show the flight of the 7mm Rem Mag over a 500 yard shot, and the 2nd of the 2 compares the 7mm Rem Mag with the 270 Win, the 30-30, and the 30-06 using Winchester Silvertip bullets. V-MAX . This package can be added onto any rifle bought through Evovled Ballistics. Figure 3. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Suggested 7mm Rem. The Barnes bullet loses velocity at twice the rate of the VLD! Loris: 50 inch would be uncommonly long. Or wait and hope it stops for a few seconds. Download Shoot! Maybe yall will find some magic power that will do likewise for the 7mm prc. We have an article on Backfire that goes a bit deeper into long-range hunting cartridges and bullet selection. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Important Note: This is anecdotal testing. L. Neil Smith, at a 200 yard zero with a Hornady SST 162 gr your looking at 34.8" drop @ 500 beyond that it really really falls off quickly after that range . Whidden has the dies for 7 PRC. Snow. The 30 caliber 165 grain Barnes TSX would have to be fired at 4100 fps muzzle velocity to maintain 2000 fps velocity at 1000 yards. The reason that the bullet deflects, is because its initial flight path or direction is different from the wind vector and resulting bullet attitude. Lol. Personally my mind goes towards hot rodding medium-to-heavy-for-caliber monos in the 150-175 grain range at 3200 -> 3000+ for long range expansion on game. Should be the next level do it all cartridge. Ballistics and Drop for the 7mm Remington Magnum Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.5" Width: 0.532" Average FPS: 3024 Average Energy: 3106 Average Gr: 153 Recoil: 2.06 Power Rank: 4.63 of 20 In the 1960's Remington created the 7mm Remington Magnum based of the 375 H&H cartridge design. Even fairly experienced reloaders sometimes struggle to get reloaded brass to fit properly into the rifle. I also received some information from a gentleman in Canada who built a 7PRC. The Barnes bullet loses velocity at twice the rate of the VLD! Shooters will gravitate toward heavy-for-caliber high-BC bullets in the 7mm PRC. Heres what he reported using a 175gr ELDX, Federal 215M primers, and Reloder26 powder. Ballistic Table Ron Spomer 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24" bl. Great video and Ive been following and hoping that a 7 PRC would come for years now. Will be suppressed at times, but in a effort to save weight on certain hunts will ditch the can(7 TBAC Ultra). I have a Vortex Strike Eagle on my 7mmMag that is being rebarreled. I really do like what you and your contributing crew are doing. Let's look at the difference in drop and deflection for our reference at 1000 yards from a 200 yard zero for two cases: 1000 ft 50 degrees ,and 8000 ft and 20 degrees. Ballistic Programing/Custom Turrets:If you are buying a ballistic range finder or kestrel we will program the ballistic computer for you so everything is ready upon arrival. Your build is the route Im thinking of going. I also have a 264 mag but the 6.5prc will do anything it will do but with a lot less powder. Flat nosed pistol bullet on the left, .308 Cal 168 grain Barnes TSX center, VLD shaped 7mm 168 grain far right.But it doesn't take a huge difference in bullet shape to have a big effect when we are comparing velocities over 1000 yards. And shoot 168 Barnes tipped triple shock bullets along with Berger VLD at same weight and load. The 7mm PRC will beat the following cartridges in sales over the next 20 years: 280AI, Gunwerks LRM, and the 7mm Rem Mag. Unfortunately, the chronograph (Labradar) glitched out and didnt record all the velocities, but I did at least shoot the following two that were recorded. This can be useful in comparing cartridges or loads. ( I know you prefer shorter barrels especially for hunting). And were you making your own brass or using RCC machined brass? They have some cool videos that explain it better than I can. deciding between the 6.5 PRC, 7 PRC, and 300 PRC, full-length bushing resizing die and micrometer seating die, Backfires Youtube channel was the first publication to break the story, https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/tab-i/tabical-en-page36.pdf. grazie, Hi Jim, I hunt in the Alps area in Italy, I walk a lot and would like a light weapon. N NomadPilot Well-Known Member Joined This difference in bullet shape can be quantified, and the comparison simplified to one numberthe Ballistic Coefficient, or BC. We will also provide a dummy round for you to take measurements if requested. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. If you want to max things out, you need a bullet that will expand at lower velocities. George Holt. Jim, I enjoy that you use your platform to provide reliable data to ethically take animals. If ya do you might blow your face off. it works. It is a great investment if you want to get into long range shooting and will be especially useful if you handload. Altitude: 0 Feet with a Standard Atmospheric Model. This spring I built a 7mm REM Mag with a long throat in a 28 inch barrel 1:8 twist from McGowen Barrels. Using a 30 Bartlein barrel, Manson reamer, RCC brass, and wanted to do some comparisons to your results. I wanted to use a 20 barrel suppressed on my 7mm PRC. Will be interested in seeing which manufacturers chamber this round. The PowerRank is an estimation of the cartridge power. Ok but im kind of confused with a heavier bullet wouldnt it just drop faster??? Tell them I sent you. Im tired of hunting with my long and heavy 300 win mag so Im re-chambering it. That sounds really cool. Here is the above load showing the trajectory out to 500 yards based on those optimum sight settings: At 500 yards this bullet is only 29.14 inches low! Recommendation: The 7mm is recommended for military applications out to 1000+ meters. This means that velocity is the big player effecting how much a bullet will drop. Newlon blanks. Steve, Jim, Im in the middle of building a 7PRC. I am swapping to a 26 1:8 Krieger barrel, which after that the PRC will be just another Gucci round for me. If you're targeting large and dangerous game, those heavier bullets certainly make a difference. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. These are Altitude (basically, Pressure), and Air Temperature. Let me know! Made my own dies. Great cartridge. Perhaps my hunting rifle and bullet combo are capable of shooting 550-yards. Sight in and validated out to 1000 yards: The rifle is sited in and shot out at distance to ensure functionality of the turret and verification of all associated data. Theres always another hunt. Hey C3, Aren't Bases for long range higher in the rear as to give better muzzle elevation to scope alignment? Ive been curious how it would shake out/compare to the 7SAUM when seated long. At the moment of truth, if you arent sure you will make a good shot, dont squeeze the trigger. Apr 17, 2011. load. You can find an email form and contact information here. Centerfire Handgun. Those shooters could use the information that Hornady is providing herein No obvious pressure signs, but I didnt feel I should compress further. Hornady ELD-X and Barnes LRX both will expand at 1600 fps. Im hunting with this cartridge with 145 gr TTSX on red stags till 250 kg untill 300 m: This ensures that the shooter has all the pertinent information for use in a ballistic calculator and everything you need to replicate the load if you want. I have the 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC, and Im sure a 7mm PRC will be in my future. Your results may vary. Thanks for all the research and compilation here, are you certain of the numbers here as in many cases your distance where bullet travels less than 1500 fps is shorter than that same calibres 1900 fps for example 6.5 PRC? Where can I get 7 PRC brass? Thats exactly what the 7PRC is, but it is by no means the only cartridge that offers those specs. Im still working on a load. Worked up load with 195 bergers. Use this ballistic calculator in order to calculate the flight path of a bullet given the shooting parameters that meet your conditions. Ill keep you posted! burning 61 grains Reloder 22 Recoil: 26.5 ft-lbs at 14.6 fps velocity Muzzle Energy: 3,269 ft-lbs Maximum Pressure: 61,000 psi MPBR: 365 yards (Zero at 307 yards, 3.9" high at 100 yards) These are some impressive numbers. "Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." The numbers arent much better and the only pro I see is getting decent numbers with a shorter barrel. Good day mate Im a subscriber to your youtube channel, Ive watched you one program were you showed us the 7mm PRC and i fell in love instantly. The amount of wind deflection is basically determined by how large the drag forces are and how long those forces act on the bullet. But, you dont want to get too close to that minimum expansion velocity. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. what speed can you get? The 7mm Rem Mag is available from 139-175 grains, while the .300 Win Mag is available anywhere from 15-230 grains. Cartridge Type: RifleHeight: 2.5"Width: 0.532"Average FPS: 3024Average Energy: 3106Average Gr: 153Recoil: 2.06Power Rank: 4.63 of 20. Increasing the BC to 0.700 the drift is only half, at 20 inches! L. B. This round is here to stay, and while the relative recoil or kick is often sighted as negative, it's often over stated, while it does kick the numbers show that the recoil on average is = or less than the average for the 30-06 but is of course more than the 270, and the 30-30. I just completed my 7PRC build, and have started testing. Please let me know how it can be improved upon. Its just another very similar round with no clear huge advantages, maybe only recoil. 1000 yard 7mm mag. Learn to listen to your gut and understand your abilities. Your email address will not be published. I do have a gain lands so its not a 100% apples to apples comparison. Does anyone know how hot you can load a 162 gr. Question, should I consider a 22 for the added benefit of when non suppressed or will the 20 (non suppressed) handle my needs just fine. I guess I can hang the gun on the wall and admire its looks until ammunition is available. Also, any chance you could add 270wsm to the tables? I was about to embark on a 7 Saum build in a long action to use the longer, higher BC bullets. While I was thinking that the 7 prc might be the way to go, Im just going to re-barrel my 7mm weather with a faster twist! Im still using the same 24 test barrel by Preferred Barrel Blanks for this cartridge. I had to calculate the 100gr at 3500fps. Mag. Surprisingly, the factory ammunition for the 160gr CX bullet offers the same 3,000fps muzzle velocity as the 175gr ELD-X bullet. ballistics software for your PC & Mac. In addition to expanding reliably, a bullet must carry sufficient energy to take down the animal. I dont like playing games of how far can I go and minimum bullet energy. This September I was able to hunt mountain goats with Beaver Foot Outfitters in British Columbia. Based on the 7mm PRC data you shared, would you use the 7mm PRC for elk and large North American game? We've measured the reference system to be on the order of eight inches at 1000 yards, but because of its exponential dependency on time of flight the 1500 yard drift could be as much as five feet! Regardless keep the videos coming The aim ballistically for Hornady with the 7mm PRC, is for a cartridge that will fire a 180gr 7mm bullet at around 2950 to 3000fps. Its an incredibly popular cartridge, but over time, I expect the 7 PRC to overtake it.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_7',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_8',175,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0_1'); .box-4-multi-175{border:none !important;display:block !important;float:none !important;line-height:0px;margin-bottom:15px !important;margin-left:auto !important;margin-right:auto !important;margin-top:15px !important;max-width:100% !important;min-height:250px;min-width:250px;padding:0;text-align:center !important;}. Mag. They gave me a 22 inch 7MM barrel blank so thats what I used for my 7 PRC build. Required fields are marked *. The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 2002 by Remington Arms Company. Note that with these loads, I switch to a standard large rifle primernot a magnum primer. This compares favorably to 150 grain and 180 grain .308 bullets which have sectional densities of .226 and .271 respectively. 1000ft.lbs: 1660yd. First, lets take a look at H4831SC powder loaded with a 175gr ELD-X bullet. I thought for certain it would have more powder capacity than a 7 Mag so Hornady could advertise the new cartridge beating the old standard. Good flat trajectory and power make this cartridge a winner when hunting deer, mule deer, and other medium to large game. You might be able to measure with a data meter the speed and direction at your location, but the wind is very likely doing something entirely different at mid-range, or at the target. The 7mm Rem Mag is another specialized cartridge that deserves comprehensive ballistics analysis using Shoot! So youre telling me Springfield Armory is planning on making a 7 PRC Waypoint 2020 in 2023 ?!?!?! The effective range of a bullet can be measured in different ways because it depends on what the bullet needs to be effective at doing. when doing ballistics for your 7mm Rem Magnum. Custom Ammo:Upon request we can provide you with custom loaded ammunition. Shoot! Wind deflection, or drift as we usually refer to it, does not occur from wind blowing on the side of the bullet. Ill keep pushing my 7RM 180gr at 3050 with 72.2gr Retumbo with brass more available than I could ever want or need. Corriolis effects from the earths rotation also needs to be compensated for. As you can see from the above table, the 7mm PRC is most similar to the Gunwerks 7 LRM. I want this to be the best ballistic trajectory calculator out there. Someone forgot the grand daddy of 7mm mags! When I first shot the 7 PRC in a lightweight rifle, I was surprised by the stout recoil; however, adding a muzzle brake or a suppressor tames the rifle dramatically. But, if you arent able to get things perfectly lined up for just long enough to pull the trigger and follow through a smidge, let it go. The ballistic data below was calculated with a Hornady 180gr ELD-Match 7mm bullet fired at . Jim, You should try Vihtavouri N560 powder in your 7 PRC. Looking at your H4831sc chart Im a little faster at 62.7grs than what you had at 63grs. Oh, it would be close, but it would still fall under the precise point of aim by about an inch. Though it is designed to headspace off the belt of brass, handloaders can improve concentricity by using the shoulder for headspacing. Great stuff. People may argue that the 7mm STW has come and gone, but with the PRS-ELR hybrid competitions becoming more common, even range directors like Scott Satterlee admit the 7mms are the ones to be on the lookout for, going forward. This is usually about 1,900fps with most bullet designs. I hope brass makers continue to make 7mm STW brass. A 20 degree incline at 1000 yards is worth 15 inches and is a realistic shooting situation. Sample Trajectory showing the bullet path crossing the line of sight.Because gravity causes the bullet to drop, the longer a bullet takes to reach its target, the more time gravity will have to pull it towards the earth. Final load 61.6 grains 1/4moa. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. Power Rank: 3.9 of 20. If its a can that takes a threaded muzzle device or a QD mount then who installed the device and did you time it for minimal POI shift? I find your data a bit too limited, which can vary greatly depending on multiple other factors. Thanks. For this ballistics demonstration we are using Norma 150gr Scirocco with a muzzle velocity of 3117fps and a ballistic coefficient of 0.536. Ive constructed a similar table that takes into account bullet construction, including expansion ratios and weight retention over time, and Id be curious to get your opinion on it. ballistics app/software that you can understand and use in the field (either target shooting or hunting). Its currently in a google sheet so I can easily share access with a good email. Obviously, the 7mm Rem Mag isnt going to just vanish in the next 10 years. 7mm Remington Magnum Despite its age, the 7mm Rem Mag's ballistics perform well even by today's standards. Everything was sub 1/2 moa from 59.5 to 62 grains. It has a length of 2.035 inches, 2.80 inches overall, with a 1:9.5 twist and a large rifle primer. Load Swift's 150-grain Scirocco at 3,036 fps delivers outstanding terminal performance. 7mm Remington Magnum The 7mm Remington Magnum has long been a favorite of Western hunters, providing flat-shooting performance like the .270 Win. Trajectory for Custom .284 7mm Mag Ammo #4550 at 3000 Feet per Second, Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.545 0.515 0.515 0.515 0.515, Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2200 2200 2200 2200, Wind Direction is: 3.0 oclock and a Wind Velocity of: 10.0 Miles per hour, Wind Components are (Miles per Hour): DownRange: 0.0 Cross Range: 10.0 Vertical: 0.0, The Firing Point speed of sound is: 1120.27 fps. Personally, I like all three of those cartridges for different reasons, but I think this new cartridge will become so popular over the next few years that those cartridges will quickly fade in the rearview mirror. Simple as that. No visible pressure signs, but likely overpressure. You think they will come out with a 7mm Western? 7mm Remington Magnum ~ 150 Grain ~ Trajectory Chart Trajectory for Custom .284 7mm Mag Ammo #4550 at 3000 Feet per Second At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.545 0.515 0.515 0.515 0.515 Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2200 2200 2200 2200 At 300 m my Blaser R8 shoots on 2 cm with these bullets. Ideal extreme powders? Isnt it smart to have a buffer and not go to the utmost maximum? The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. 1400 W Henry St If you're after deeper penetration, look at the 139-grain Barnes VOR-TX Long. Im getting impressive velocities despite the short length, and the accuracy has been insanely goodone of the most accurate rifles Ive ever shot. Again we see how important a short time of flight is to minimize these effects. Any suggestions? 24 is the reference data from Hornady, but I have a 20 barrel and am still getting nice velocities. If I add to that a gusty 25 mph wind, Im not shooting past 200 yards. The Hornady 7 PRC is a new long-range hunting and competition cartridge that slides neatly into the gap that exists between the 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC. ballistics software below for the same load: At 500 yards the remaining velocity is 2264fps again, this is exceptional ballistics for a bullet weight in this class and diameter. The second, and in my opinion, the most difficult to compensate for is wind deflection. The recoil of the 7mm PRC produces 27.7 ft-lbs of energy at a recoil velocity of 14.1 fps. Your rifle will be sent over to Evolved Munitions LLC who will then begin the load development process. Again, weight of the bullet plays a large role in bucking wind. So, the crosswind velocity and the bullet's time of flight will determine how much it is deflected in the wind. 61.6 grains H4831sc with 195 berger gives 2975fps. Point blank range is 302 yards. I really enjoy your videos, I like that you say your truth about the products you review. You can get a new barrel for your Ruger American, Tikka, Bergara, Savage, etc. Now that hunting season is over would love to see some load testing out of your 20 inch barrel. External ballistics covers everything that happens during a bullet's flight between the muzzle of the rifle, and the target. This is averaging several different loads to get these numbers for each cartridge, so we can compare apples-to-apples, but youre right that with ALL cartridges you could go up or down slightly depending on the load selection. This setup is for long range target shooting. All the scopes I like seam to be out of my price affordability. 7mm Ballistics Examined For this ballistics demonstration we are using Norma 150gr Scirocco with a muzzle velocity of 3117fps and a ballistic coefficient of 0.536. I did chamber a 7mm Blaser some years back, the 7mm PRC seems to me a very much balanced cartridge coming from the 78gn capacity and based on the Ruger cartridge, look to be efficient for loading 160gn bullets to 2900-3000ft/s. Now I think that build is going to be a 7 PRC. This should get me real close when I go to shoot. Rifle Ammunition Product Lines: AG American Gunner . Using this as a reference, let's examine several other factors that can effect our shot placement. The parent case is the .308 Winchester with a narrowed neck that fits a .284 inch bullet on a .315 inch neck with a rimless, bottleneck case. I use a Griffin ultra-light 30 cal suppressor and in all of my rifles I average around a 60 FPS velosity gain over a brake. I feel it will offer the best velocity in a shorter barrel. Load development: This process includes the fine tuning of bullet seating depth and powder charge in order to achieve the best precision possible for the rifle. Leave nothing to chance, because great things dont happen on accident. This load has been optimized in Shoot! Thats when little things cause failures. Awesome article and information. I just hope I gave you a little something to consider. Was nice to see your wife in the last video. So, you definitely need a long-range bullet for most longer shots. This is using CCI Large Magnum primers, and shooting out of a 24 test barrel. Unfortunately I wasnt able to find any standard case diagrams for the Sherman cartridges so thats really all I can say. In fact, Id guess that 60% of the new hunting rifles in most gun stores today are chambered in a cartridge designed by Hornady. thank you. Interestingly, I loaded 61.2 grains of H4831SC in a 7mm Remington Magnum, and a 7mm PRC. Re#26 69 grs pushes a 162 gr A- max 3225 fps. However, its pointless to attempt such shots if you dont optimize 7mm Rem Mags point blank range during sighting-in. As soon as the cartridge was officially announced, Hornady announced many rifle makers that will be producing factory offerings for the 7 PRC. Current F-class are almost all .284 (another strangely missing cartridge in this articles comparison) which says something about what the disciplined shooters, regularly shooting out X-rings at 1000m, think. The best of us always leave too soon. Just wondering. Your email address will not be published. Starline Brass has plans to produce these cases in the future. Keep in mind this is an approximation and although it is quite accurate it should never replace first-hand experience of shooting your specific firearm and ammunition to determine the bullet drop and windage at different ranges and conditions. Those are definitely numbers that need to be accounted for, but most sophisticated methods for long range shooting handle these changes easily. since Im a fan of your youtubes, my question to you: Couple questions for you. Obviously, there are many technical differences between the two, but they do fill a nearly identical hole in the market. Testing 160-168 Gr bullets. Better to pass on a questionable shot. The 6.5 Creedmoor has long been known to cause damage to the International Space Station with errant shots. Im guessing that the parent cartridge for this is the .416, but thats really a guess. Well done mate , wont 7wsm do the same?? In summary, this is why the 7mm Rem Magnum is an excellent ballistic performer. Im a big fan of the 7mm. Your email address will not be published. Still a cool round for someone first using a .284 round. There are 100s of different 7mm Rem Mag factory ammunition loads and bullets to choose from in Shoot! Youre also not going to shoot as well on a moving animal. there are plenty of rifles capable of 1000 yards but if your looking for something that wont drop 10 ft there are better choices. My scope has seen better days but my Weatherby Accumark is like new and I really like it. RCC brass and Manson reamer. Seems like the 7 PRC is 90% of the 28 Nosler without the extremely short barrel life and 20% less recoil. Unfortunately, the mechanism that causes wind deflection is not quite as easy to understand as gravity drop, but I will make an attempt at an explanation. Not like they are going to get away stuffing a 7mm PRC into a short action any less than the 7mm STW even when the former has a shorter COAL. Just like shooting near dawn or dusk, or shooting into a glare. So please keep letting us know how it works for you. Few seconds it all cartridge Ive been waiting for another Gucci round for someone first using a 30 barrel! 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