bach minuet in g major analysis

There are 40 other pieces inthis book, and countless other pieces in countless other books.Why getso hung up? or even a 2 + 1 rhythm scheme Am - D6/4into the G. I respect the fact that you know much more about thehistory of counterpoint than I and are very knowledgable in general.But the fact is there aren't any triads here. The key is G major with a modulation (key change) to D major in the second section, starting at bar 20 with the introduction of the out-of-key note C# and the out-of-key chord A major. Although I joked about getting the idea fromthe two of you, I wouldn't have follwed thru with my analysis in thatmanner if I hadn't seen some sort of connection myself. That's my> goal> ( though I don't know how much I'll actually post -the bullshit in> this group is getting real old real fast ). Apart from the form, this essay will be explaining how each element of music links to one or more emotion through this piece of music. "Minuet in G Major" is one of the pieces in the collection called "Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach," which consists of many pieces presented by several different composers to J. S. Bach's 2nd wife, Anna Magdalena. As the melody ascends from the 8th up to the 6th, there is another C# to show that we are out of G but we still need to bass to experience a proper cadence. The melody clearly outlines a 6/3 chord, in line with the rule of the octave. Search Write to us. Mesure 25 is just a momentary hint at G major - or could be the V of C minor - I'd have to look at it again but one measure of the opposite mode does not disrupt the key too much usually. There is a passing note of a 7th in the melody on the 2nd half of the 2nd beat. Polonaise in G minor 5. Bar 8 is a half cadence, where the music ends on a scale degree. They could be bigger leaps, but you often see>>them in this fashion.>> But I assume you can't define every melody progressing this way as> containing escape tones.Still beyond my grasp. Morike Lieder No 24: In der Fruhe (Early Morning) (1888) )>>>and the A3 accented PT (or app. Titles: * Rondo in C Major from Sonatina (W.A. A short dance with simplistic two-part writing and two sections with repeats for each. Prinners sometimes leap to the scale degree before returning to the scale degree. Moving onto bar 5, we see a modification of the opening rhythmic pattern into a descending variation. 1. in G major (BWV 841) 2. in G minor (BWV 842) 3. in G major (BWV 843) Year/Date of Composition Y/D of Comp. Sheet Music: Schumann-Ich Grolle Nicht; Breitkopf & Hrtel, 1879-1912 >> Yes. >> All interpretations are valid given the context of the actual notes> placed before us.The answer depends on what> expectations we superimpose over what is shown,> based on what we know about *other* pieces .>> 5 6 7 8>> Am G D G G D7>> ____ ______ / / / ________>> ii I V I6 I V7. Thanks for your help. In fact, I> started playing number 36 (bwv anh 132) again and am having a bitch of> a time trying to figure out some of the changes. Due to its popularity in Western Europe, this compositional form was also popular with later composers such as Scarlatti, Mozart, and Haydn, who were able to take it and further expand upon it. Probably a misunderstanding on my part, but curious that it DOES showup somewhat near the end like Fux said. >only on a metrically weak position, but with the ET being shorter in value >(like the 16th of a dotted 8th-16th pair). Arriving at bar 4, which is very similar to bar 2, the melody hits the 6th of the standard 6/3 chord on the scale degree three times with three crotchets. The repetition bars helps us find out the end of each section. >> (steve: notice I didn't get caught notating em as em7 this time:)> also, I have a feeling you'll correct me on bar 23). Recent scholarship reveals it to be by the rather obscure composer Christian Pezold. Required fields are marked *. 11, No. Publisher Info: Pandora Records/Al Goldstein Archive This analysis will instead focus on partimento, figured bass, counterpoint, and music schema theory. Usually in that position, viio6, V6/4, and V4/3 are all common, however, the C would usually go down if it were the 7th of the 4/3, or the o5 of the viio, so V6/4 looks best, except for the fact that there's no chord tones from that chord! >>>> Based on what you've said here and playing it as written, I'd say>> yeah, definitely. Perhaps the most interesting to me is the repeated use of accented passing notes and the light 2-voice texture which nonetheless sounds full because of the movement of the melodic line. Publisher: Mutopia Project >>>>>>> 21 22 23 24>> A Em* A D D A D D D7/C>> ___ / / / / / / / / />> V ii ii V6 I I6 V I I D:V7 of IV>> G:V7 of I. typing these long things from my handwritten notes gets confusingafter a while, I guess - I have no idea how that insanity got into bar22!!! Anticipations are non-chord tones (dissonances) that are played BEFORE the remaining voices arrive at the chord. II 116 from . Note: >The best choice for m. is *not* (italicized, ed.) >>>>> 29 30 31** 32>> D * C G D G G D G>> / / / / / / / / / ____>> V ? δ α18. NCT Form down to the phrase level. That term is usually reserved for a "scondary" melody occuring simultaneously with a "main" melody :-). Minuet in G minor 3. (phrase end, that is), >>> 25* 26 27 28> G C G D7 G D> ___ ____ / / / ____> I6 Iv I V764 I V. m. 27: Here again is that problematic V6/4 or viio6 or V4/3 in the same place. Audio: Youtube bar 23 contains the 6th aloys. >> OK - We are at the end of the first half of the melody, ending on a> half cadence - which leaves it incomplete >> mm.5-6 I've decide to interpret the chords full bar, which can be> argued with, but my analysis is leaning more towards> melody here and the actual chords seem less important right now. It is harmonically accompanying the angelical choir through the highs and lows of the chant. Then the melody creates a sense of progression and growth as it moves gradually through a wide pitch range. Depends on which notes are consonant and which are dissonant! Uploaded on May 01, 2016. >>>Anyway, why did the composer feel it was necessary to add this extra note >>in>>only these places? I have been reading over your blog the past few months and I find it an absolute treasure, thank you Bryan for sharing your vast knowledge with us all! >>>>>> Aurally, we have seemed to already modulated to the dominant as soon>>> as this section starts!>>>>I don't agree. Copyright: Public Domain This is the dominant of G major. 114, from Anna Magdalenas notebook. V4/3 - V6/5.There's no vi? Prelude in . γ ?16.---------------------------------------17. They analyzed a few chords, and left a few for >the student. The prinner analysis could fit as the bass descends in bar 27 with the typical next stages in the bass in parallel thirds with the upper voice. Today, I want to offer an in-depth harmonic analysis of Christian Petzolds famous first prelude in C, BWV Anh. Bar 13, we have descended from scale degree in the bass from the previous bar to now the scale degree. and Mozart combines historical perspectives with recent developments in music analysis to shed new light on this distinctive part of the repertoire. So it's not a pair, it's an ABA form which is how a minuet and trio work - you're treating the second one as if it's the trio section of a da capo like form - this is common and I was instructed to do this on guitar, as aparently so many of the "greats" had recorded them. But now I see this was where I needed to start at. Yes, but an excellent place to start - especially for working out those ambiguities (or at least thinking about them in multiple ways). Sheet Music: Schumann-Album for the Young No 21; C.F. Dissonances are labeled in red and consonances in blue. The whole piece is quite upbeat, which suits its purpose it is sang in celebrations., This was composed as an ensemble. "> I started cracking up, and he said, "You laugh, but now you won't> forget it." "I've been reading your blog for nearly a year now, and as a college student new to the world of classical music I have to say it's been incredibly informative. 21 (1890), Creative Commons Attribution Non-commercial Share Alike 3.0, Creative Commons Attribution Non-commercial 3.0, https://musictheorymaterials.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/beethoven_109.3.mp3, https://musictheorymaterials.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMSLP74636-PMLP06507-waltz03.mp3, Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike 3.0, https://musictheorymaterials.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMSLP110209-PMLP02344-Chopin_Prelude_Opus_28_n.4.mp3, https://musictheorymaterials.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMSLP110293-PMLP02344-13_Chopin-_Prelude_no._6_in_B_minor.mp3, https://musictheorymaterials.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMSLP110304-PMLP02344-25_Chopin-_Prelude_no._20_in_C_minor.mp3, https://musictheorymaterials.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMSLP71642-PMLP29686-MP3-189-GFHaendel-Suite5inEdur-4-AirMit5Variationen-128.mp3, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. Creative Commons Attribution Non-commercial 3.0, Mikrokosmos, Volume 3, No 77, Little Study (1940), Non PD-US (Copyright London: Boosey & Hawkes , 1940), Piano Sonata No. (Orchestral Suite No. Bar 20 sees the bass move to the scale degree in D major. γ γ7.8.-----------------------------------------9. >> end B section>> --->> The parellels with this and the 'companion piece' in G minor(anh 115)> are pretty obvious. Actually, I got the idea from this exchange you had with J Jensen: >Also, the really interesting question involves the companion piece>#4 in G major. The tritone does hint at the dominant chord, but as later, this is a common chordal dissonance. Quora User Morgan Stanley Alum & Chief Financial Officer at Masterworks Updated Dec 13 Promoted Where do billionaires invest when there's high inflation? (app and sus areexplained pretty good, though). First, there seems to be no discernible melody in theleft hand part! Instrumental Solo in G Major. Peters, n.d. (1888) >>>>>>>>> The change of the melody at m.15 gives it a feeling of finality>>> - the "answer" to the "question" raised at m.7>>>>Sure, ant phrase ends on ^2, HC, and cons phrase ends on ^1, AC. Audio: Youtube, Sheet Music: Schumann-Ein Choral; C.F. >Note in m. 30 you put IV6 I V6. I am so thankful for obsessive thinkers and writers like yourself who give us something interesting and intellectually nourishing to chew on almost every day. Melodically, Holsingers is able to reflect the somber mood of the text by having lower, mellower voices carry the main tune while the upper voices serve as the more accompanimental figures until the high points of the piece, mostly when the melody goes into the refrain. Believe it or not, this is a story about a song that was written way back in the early 1700s and became a smash hit over 200 years later. I'm working on "Air on a G> String' next. There is no overt labeling of chords even though the melody often implies the typical chords one would find in the rule of the octave. The 60s were quite an exciting time in American music. Three measure phrase then arrives at a climactic trill section at measure four followed by a series of grace notes. It should be required reading for anyone with love of, or interest in, classical music. Understood. So I have decided to update i St. Ambrose We mostly think of chant, the unaccompanied vocal music of the Roman Catholic Church, as 'Gregorian' chant after Pop UPDATE: This post has been particularly hit with a bad case of link-rot, so I am replacing all the original musical clips with new ones. Peters, n.d. (1888) I stand by what *I* said. @.> wrote in message >news:hs0591l6pa2h6jr7q@4ax.com>>>>> remember the 2+ 1 Harmonic Rhythm we discussed in the minor version?>>I don't think it's necessary to analyze it here with different harmonies >though. The "B" on beat two is an upper-neighboring tone and the "G" on beat three is a passing tone - what could be seen as a 4-3 suspension. >>>And a word of caution here - one should always go back to the original >manuscripts where you can to be completely accurate - you can never trust >Schirmer, or CPP Belwin, or Mel Bay, or whomever. ", Your blog is invaluable not just as a remarkable archive on musical subjects, but as a place where one can find genuinely interesting opinions on music, both from you and commenters. Using the chords to see >which they sound like they're a part of is a good idea, but don't pass >judgement solely on that :-). He spent most of his life as a church organist and a choir director. There are many harmonic analyses available on YouTube but I would like to offer an analysis that is quite different, based on my study of Partimento and Counterpoint. Once again, coming from a piano world, I can only speak to the composition and not the execution of the pieces, but I agree with your identification of a skittish undertone, but Id attribute that to Bach often skipping over the tonal center in favor of dancing around it. . I understand what everything means except UN. sorry. >>>>>> (steve: notice I didn't get caught notating em as em7 this time:)>> also, I have a feeling you'll correct me on bar 23)>>Yes, but it's neither :-D - you've twice now invented em chords when >there's no E present! Wolf, Hugo (1860-1903) or maybe we're> still on G with a bit of activity in the bass is that C chord> moving to D7 on the last beat or is it all C? Peters, n.d. (1888) I see it now. η η22. Normally there would be an A minor chord. 20 (1838-1839), Sheet Music: Chopin-Prelude No 20; Publisher: C.F. You've mentioned this a couple of times and I haven't >really said too much, but, most minuets kind of follow general patterns and >you could probably find many with even close parallels to both. >[snip]>>>> Yes. Creative Commons Attribution Non-commercial Share Alike 3.0, March in G, from Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach, BWV Anh. or even a 2 + 1 rhythm scheme Am - D6/4> into the G. I respect the fact that you know much more about the> history of counterpoint than I and are very knowledgable in general.> But the fact is there aren't any triads here.>> I'm not trying to argue you - I accept your solution as making sense> in context. The 6th is specifically a harmonic interval expanding to the octave. Just give the key and progression as you've done so I can figure out which it is from my edition! Copyright: Public Domain 68, No. They're two different works. Topics: Binary form In the G minor one, it is more complicated. But if you try to play those traids under the melody>> - it sounds a little *off* ( though I could probably get used to it>> if I played it enough times).>>Remember though, this is counterpoint. Minuet in G major 2. When the upper voices do come in, however, they help to create a very sublime moment within the music that is meant to reflect Spaffords profound declaration of praise in the face of the deaths of his daughters. (BIG disclaimer here - I'm looking at the Belwin edition that is riddled with errors, so it's entirely possible that yours is different from mine (and mine is probably less correct, but I'll assume it is OK for now). In the year 1725, Bach presented Anna Magdalena with a notebook full of sheet music by various composers, including pieces written by Bach himself. It's typical to find more elaborate versions later (more notes!) Other improvements include a cleaner appearance with less . The C does go down to B (measure to measure),>>>and the 5th is omitted (a common omission). It terminates on a half cadence on the 5th scale degree in bar 20, continuing into 21. Counterpoint came first, chords later. recommends.>>No, you're mixing two things. Elementary-Late Elementary (RCM 1) Part of the PianoXML project. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I'll quote: Label the chords implied by >the two voices. It seemed> like he was trying to do a major key version of the i6-viio6-i from> m.27 of the minor piece we looked at. Seems to me he'slabeling it as an IN indiscriminately. It, On 6 Jun 2005 22:41:33 -0700, "J Jensen" <, I wanted to follow up with what I had on the "pattern matching", On 17 Jun 2005 13:53:44 -0700, "J Jensen" <. @.> wrote: I stand by what I said. incontext. I just wish he would have given> more 'workbook' type examples that would help drive the point home. Non-chord tones are in parentheses in the bass (only). There's lots of instances of this that always intrigue>>me.>> I've actually been thinking about this - and I still don't know! The story begins with Johann Sebastian Bach, an incredibly prolific and popular organist and composer who lived in Germany in the early 18th century during what is called the Baroque period. (I play the G majoronewith no ornaments, then the Gm one, and then a fully embellished Gmajoragain, with no repeats). There's usually some ancestral evolution to trace. At first, the melody seems calm as it proceeds primarily by step within a low register. (but there's really valid needs for it). I>>>> * = same as previous. Bach - Two-Part Invention XIII. Try to understand the spirit and reasoning and impulse for thecreation of these great works. Stand corrected>>I think a very interesting approach to an analysis would be to concentrate >on these "stragglers" - They're like those people who come walking through >the shot in a Western movie - passersby - there's an actual term for them. Suzuki) * Etude (Shinichi Suzuki) * Minuet No. . >>>>>> The change of the melody at m.15 gives it a feeling of finality>> - the "answer" to the "question" raised at m.7>>Sure, ant phrase ends on ^2, HC, and cons phrase ends on ^1, AC. Bach plays with the two-voice texture in an interesting way, omitting the thirds from some chords which often serve as important structural features (i.e. >Ahh, what about that V in bar 13 - now it makes more sense from above>doesn't it? Classic Chalkboard Theme by Edward R. 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