Interpretation- the shooter always saves his good mood- even after shooting a buck. The accuracy of these rifles and the shooting done with them was truly remarkable. A front sight slot can be provided at no extra charge for 3/8" sights. Flat trajectory never was important when used in target shooting. This German Schuetzen rifle sold for $5,500 at a 2005 auction. ", BBF, yes there is some money invested in the rifle and the accessories. It's got beautiful. This Germanic Schuetzen (Target) Rifle is in 8.15 X 46R with a 28 " Barrel having an excellent bore. It is a rather idyllic site in a wooded river bottom, a pleasant place to relax. If it is a manually operated rifle, open the bolt and insert the ammunition into the chamber and then close the bolt. At this time we do not process firearm sales through this web site. MARHRHOLDT IN INSSBRUCK GERMAN SCHUETZEN TD RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, 29 oct. bbl. This Rifle appears to have had a, Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle in .22LR. It is generally believed that the use of the bow and arrow date back to approximetely 50,000 B.C. Try changing your search term. Original system-aydt action, remain, Erma E36 Pre-War W.K. Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. 24", overall 42 1/4". Case hardened profusely engraved action with God of the Hunt motif on right side and Goddess of the Hunt on the left with balance engraved with a floral pattern. The only other information I got from the seller was that the rifle was given to him by a friend whose father supposedly took this (and others) from from a hunting lodge owned by Erwin Rommel, but there is no supporting evidence of that. There is no other firearm that looks or shoots quite like a Schuetzen. Barrel is 26.5"". The caliber as well as the maker is unknown to me (pic of the entire rifle is in. An obsolete blackpowder caliber designed in 1880 of which there are RARE loaded rounds in any cartridge collections or for sale from cartridge vendors. When Schuetzen became a competitive sport in Germany, many gun makers built these rifles to specifically fit an individual shooter. Like many Schuetzen rifles of the period, it sports a set of double set triggers. As part of the rush to dive headfirst into the First World War, the government used a "media blitz" (sound familiar?) 30" Octagon Barrel. Blackwell Auctions holds a Federal Firearms License (FFL). I'm new to the forum and new to Schuetzen. to 19 B.C.) Axel mentions Maretsch in the Nimrod thread - is that a German book ? The object of these competitions was not simply to hit the target but to break off a piece of it. This German Schtzen rifle (probably built before 1914) on the German Martini action is chambered in 8.15x46R. Beautifully engraved German Schuetzen rifle made by Otto Zeitlinger of Eickstatt, Bayern (Bavaria). File cut ramped front sight, removable trigger group falling block action, double set triggers with extended trigger guard tang, c, #733A HAENEL ORIGINAL AYDT TAKEDOWN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, original Schuetzen tang sight adjustable for windage & elevation, pinhead ramp front sight with ears, sling swivels, DST, Schuetzen, Simson & Co. Karabiner Rifle .22 lr caliber 23 1/2" barrel Takedown screw Butter knife bolt lever is serial number matching Single shot Period correct European braided leather s. FR Langenhan Akan Single shot Rifle,22 LR,23-1\2" Barrel,Solid Stock, Excellent Bore, No Safety, No Ejection system. The round paper or wooden target was popular and shooting at moving targets of game animals also took place. Thanks. Original sights consist of a very delicate blade front sight, a fancy rear barrel sight and a unique tang sight. bbl., DST, checkered stock with pewter forend cap, large Schuetzen buttplate, fancy spur trigger guard, original tang sight adjustabl, #1033A C. STEIGELE MARTINI GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, SN 95XX, 30 fluted bbl., made in 1938, bottom of bbl. marked 53, 9514, 1721?8 Prima Kruppscher Guesstahl K, sliding a, #873A R . Suhl History, Photographs & Notgelds, etc. 1871 Mauser, and as stated by "sauerfan" is a blackpowder. Engraved by J. Kellerthaler. All firearms: pistol, revolver, shotgun & rifle transactions will be conducted in . The grounds where the competition took place was referred to as the Vogelwiese. It's like you climb into the butt, climb into the trigger guard and you feel like you've just stepped into an orthopedic device with perfect ergonomics. Schuetzen Matches are shot at 200 yards with a specialized target. I do understand the words, but is that black powder or smokeless ? In the 1930's they held Hitler as the only one that would bring pride back to Germany and bring the budget and economy back.. All that should have been a good sized hit in the wallet." S/N 2078X, 1970 fortuna drilling very nice condition. Wouldn't that have the .080 rim thickness? They may be illegal to transfer to another resident in the case of so-called assault weapons. We're Sighting In on the tradition and history of a 200 year old firearm. It's a beautiful German-made. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. 28" Octagon Barrel. Have you shot yours yet, what were the results, I'd love to see the targets, Have you shot yours yet, what were the results, I'd love to see the targets. The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. Yours Sincerely Tim Hudd. The $1300 price tag is a bit much for what would end up as a wallhanger for me. CMG West, LLC When I say I practice a lot I mean with a hand gun. History: The round was introduced as the new military rifle cartridge in 1906. Loose Trans. In the 1920's "sheeple" was a term coined by the National Socialist Party in Germany to describe people that would not vote for Hitler. That name has stuck to . This one has beautiful relief carving on the stock. Unfortunately, this rifle lacked the rear sight. With its .30-caliber bullet, the naming convention of the time called it the .30-06. They are the first firearms in the industry to have a laser built into the gun, you cannot buy them without it. Check the weapon to make sure it is unloaded by opening the action and visually inspecting the chamber and magazine (if present). I think I found out who the maker is, in a book I just got, Alte Scheibenwaffen, in Vol 2 on page 316 is this: Thanks Mike, what I am learning is that Oskar Will's design was copied by other makers, and it is hard to say for sure who made my rifle. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The cards they are printed on generally measure 5 1/2 inches square (14 mm). A full size Bird Target which survived a shooting event in more or less one piece. by 6pt-sika Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:37 pm, Post Available calibers include .22 Long Rifle, .25-20 Single Shot, .25-20 WCF, .25-21, 28-30 Stevens, .32-20 WCF or CPA, .32-40, .33-40, .38-55 and many others. The load on the chart wasn't the one I went by, instead I considered the one marked on the rifle. The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. bbl., DST, fancy spur trigger guard, steel shotgun butt, sling swivels, casehardened frame with about 90% remaining, 98% bbl. Called and Mrs Davidson said - 'We have 2 sets in stock." Item #34539 German Ideale System Martini Schuetzen Rifle. Ach du Lieber" !! The book. By the 14th and 15th Centuries the crossbow was the favorite amongst both the military and sportsmen alike. The story I heard was that many of these were WWII bring-backs and often missing a part -- typically the rear aperture sight, but sometimes a key part in the firing mechanism to make the gun non-firing. All matching and original finish. Right-hand schutzen backend, rebarreled to US configuration 219 Zipper. Beautifully engraved German Schuetzen rifle made by Otto Zeitlinger of Eickstatt, Bayern (Bavaria). My now deceased shooting buddy had a Martini Schuetzen very similar to yours and I had one on the big falling block style action . Gewehr 98/40: Fmr, Fegyver- s Gpgyr: 7.92 . It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be ". These rifles are usually built to order, with a variety of options to suit your specific needs. over rifle bbl., rifle bbl. There are only roughly 2500 Model 720 rifles total known to be manufactured between 1941 and 1944 with possibly only a few hundred in .270 W.C.F. Engraved, German, Nitro Proof, 27.5 Barrels. Reloading Dies - Only source for this caliber is CH4D. to generate a significant anti-German sentiment. According to a legend told by the famous V. Goethe, the medievel knight G.v.B. by Nath Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:03 am, Post Unusual calibers, 25" bbls under is chambered for Sauer rimmed ctg mfg by RWS, 20 pieces of brass and n, GERMAN DRILLING 16GA - 9.3X72R BACK ACTION HAMMER GUN, 95% KRUPP STEEL BARRELS, NICE BORES WITH A LITTLE PITTING TOWARD THE BACK, SILVER RECEIVER WITH SOME LIGHT SCROLL , GOOD SOLID WOOD, CHEC, "German Guild Schutzen 7.6mm caliber rifle. German Schuetzen Style Rifle - 8.15x46 Norm 1.2K Views Last Post 28 August 2021 Standard Member Norman1950 posted this 19 October 2020 New Member here from Idaho. Single shot full stock A. It gives the formula there for safe loads with 2400 and 4198. Home >> Browse All >> Search Results >> Login To Save This Search Limit to State: Local Listing Results Show All schuetzen For Sale Sorry, no results were found. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. This rifle has double set triggers. Classic German style stock and cheek piece. "Oh my Dearest. It is the first on the market with full controls. Sounds like a helluva start. Model: Schuetzen. We will contact you to confirm options and pricing for your rifle. The 12 month average price is $1,032.73 used. The barrel is approx 25.5" with a hand oper, "Serial No. It's basically covered with hand carving and engraving. Begin by loading the schuetzen rifle. 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Yours Sincerely Tim Hudd, Your email address will not be published. 30" Octagon Barrel. Made double rifles as well for high ranking customers. Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle .22LR VERY NICE!!! Harry M. Pope of New Jersey and George Schoyen of Denver, Colorado were considered the finest riflesmiths of the "Schuetzen" era. These have become world hunting cartridges. 32-40 is what I think the general consensus will be with the following ( I list an order so others can suggest improvements): What the heck, I'd just paste a copy of that to CPA and start gathering brass and lead. 14.3 lbs. Will, Zwickau," but whether he was the maker or just the retailer is impossible to say. All times are GMT. 3% charge for credit card payment. It was made by Franz Neumann, Suhl Germany in 1930. The overall length is approx. The Bodyguard 38 revolver, chambered in 38 plus P. While it looks somewhat like a hammerless Smith and Wesson, its really quite different. Features double set triggers. W3088 WINCHESTER 1885 LO-WALL DELUXE SCHUETZEN RIFLE IN CALIBER 22 [A] $ W3106 ENGRAVED HIGH WALL CUSTOM TARGET RIFLE BY NIEDNER RIFLE CORP [A] $ Interested In Any Of Our Products. https://www.militaria-fundforum.de/ftole/&pageNo=4, If this is your first visit, be sure to How does yours shoot, I would love to see one of the targets. Marks showing crowns over the letters B, U, (proof approved); G (rifled barrel), S (smoothbore) and W (choked barrel) span the period from the first German proof law of 1891 until 1939, but there are usually other marks present that can greatly narrow the date range. by Chuck 100 yd Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:31 pm, Post As the bore/land diameter is given with the old gauge number 527 = 5.25 5.50 mm, the rifle was proofed 1893 1911. Schuetzen - German Martini Rifle, 7.7mm. Elongated prongs on the rifles butt plate work hand in hand with the unique palm rest to help competitors balance the rifle. See more ideas about rifle targets, rifle, guns. Because of its superior accuracy, this type of rifle quickly became the dominant force in the "Schuetzen" competitions that had been transplanted to America along with the German people. The word "Schuetzen" is German and in this application refers to a breech-loading, singleshot rifle using a cartridge case to contain the primer and powder charge with cast or swaged lead bullets. Make sure each round is fully in contact with the next round and is not rattling around. Fixed ammunition can be used, but the prior methods are believed to offer greater accuracy. Its the first ambidextrous Revolver. What aabout the Jamison C sharps 44-90 brass? The firearms used in this competition were referred to as Vogelbchse and are single shot long guns with a lage gauge bore, the 16 ga. being the most common. Is this possible. Circa 1900 Stevens-Pope (U.S.) Lever-Action Falling-Block Rifle (single-shot/ breech-loading/ black powder/ cartridge ammunition) In his day, Harry M. Pope was judged to be the finest American barrel maker. Focus ring on scope is stuck. When encountered today, his rifles often bear the crests of the European nobleman who had ordered the gun. by Pitchy Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 pm, Post Founded in 1964, Oakdale Gun Club is a member-owned and operated non-profit corporation dedicated to promoting the shooting sports, improving public safety, and providing our members and the surrounding community with a safe, supervised, and well-maintained place to practice the shooting sports. The reference for these ballistics has been mostly ADI and some Wikipedia for the more obscure big game calibers. However, that does not indicate the 7.7 mm Arisaka round. by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:48 pm, Post Get a Douglas or Shilen 28 #3 barrel with a 1 : 14 twist, then ask Paul to recommend you a bullet mold he will steer you right. The rifle is an "unknown" 8mm (for now, but it's most likely an 8.15X46R) with a 30" tapered octagon barrel, no maker's marks on the receiver or barrel anywhere, a heavy checkered Schuetzen buttstock with large cheek rest, Schuetzen buttplate & lever, double-set triggers, original Schuetzen tang sight (with large 2.125" disc), pinhead . Shooting as a sport was so popular in Germany that practically every village of any size had a shooting club or "Schuetzen Verbande." Standard barrel sizes are #2 (1.00"), #2 1/2 (1.03"), #3 (1 1/16"), #4 (1 1/8"), and #5 (1 3/16") in part octagon or round. Trap ranges will be at Member cost. California Rifle & Pistol Association LIFE Member, avatar pic is Shasta Dam, Shasta Lake, & Mt. Caliber is another important criterion when choosing a rifle - it can differ from 0.17 (4.4mm) to as high as .80 caliber (largest anti-tank rifles). The engraving and metalwork on this piece is exquisite and that may be the only justification for someone to buy this rifle. The Ultimate Firearms Destination for the Gun Lifestyle, 2023 Recoil Magazine The CPA Schuetzen rifle is a reproduction of the Stevens 44 1/2 in classic offhand target configuration. German Schuetzen Rifle 8.15X46 caliber, 30" octagonal barrel with groove top for sights, rear tang sight and notched front sight. A crossbow shooting competition (Vogelschiessen) which took place in Dresden in 1612. As a result, this particular Cabelas buys more used firearms than every other Cabelas location combined. Hopkins & Allen Schuetzen is a falling block system target rifle, styled after German-Swiss Schuetzen rifles. 96% condition. That is a beautiful rifle. As a standard to aid in comparing calibers, all trajectory charts have the same axes. Make sure you are in a safe shooting area with a suitable backstop. Bullet moulds might be a little harder to come by but it will give you a little more than the 32-40 has to offer especialy for a new shooter. Larry B. Schuknecht & Dutchman Wood Works, The 5.6x35R Vierling, 5.6x36R & .22 Hornet, 14.5x49R & 14.5x52R Dombrowski-Heissig Hochwildpatrone, H. Utendoerffer-RWS Catalog of Brass Cases, Die Schneckenbgel (The Snail Triggerguard), Veb Fahrzeug und Jagdwaffenwerk-Ernst Thlmann-Model 30,32 Drilling Instruction Book, Transitional Systems- Muzzle to Breech Loading, The Lefaucheux Guns and Pin Fire Ammunition, The Stutzen Rifles- Berg, Bolt, Feuer, Ischler and Pirsch, Miscellanious Advertisements for Austrian Makers, J. G. Anschutz 1937 Catalog nr. 2 Early Gun Makers & their Tools Vintage Gun Making Machinery The Guild System Austrian Gunmakers Miscellanious Advertisements for Austrian Makers German Gunmaking Centers All rights reserved. C&R. Grade 4 Wood. We will trade for silver and gold. Matches are held the 2nd Tuesday of each month, from May through September, from 3pm to close, on the west-half of the 100 yard range. Generally, Douglas XX or Shilen barrels are used, but Bartlein, Ron Smith and others are available at extra charge. The 459 is more common, but 527 is common enough to not be surprising. I have CPA rifles in both 22RF and 32-40. "Schuetzen" competition was usually fired at 200 or 220 yards offhand. The rifle looks like one of the "Ideal" actions that Axel has written extensively about. In 2008 I had the priviledge of accompanying other German Gun Collectors Association members on a two week tour of Germany. Gun comes with provenance from owner stating he bought it off . 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